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Letter to the Editor: Is the Reform Party going Dutch?

Elections / Mon 10th Jun 2024 at 09:35am

Dear Editor,

Whilst enjoying a leisurely breakfast this morning (9 June) my letter box rattled and a white fronted leaflet from the Reform Party lay on the doormat.

I was intrigued by their slogans on the rear of the leaflet: “Control our borders” and “Get Britain working”. However, an inspection of the imprint at the footer of this leaflet revealed it was printed by Vistaprint in Venlo, The Netherlands!

Apart from getting The Netherlands working, I believe this may have been done to show solidarity with the far-right PVV party, which is led by Geert Wilders and he was born and raised in Venlo. 

Regards,

David Forman 

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49 Comments for Letter to the Editor: Is the Reform Party going Dutch?:

RayMo
2024-06-10 10:07:47

Worried?

Adam
2024-06-10 10:13:33

Ahhh leftie tears and grasping at straws. I bet they never even look and just printed some leaflets as it was cheap. Not everything is a hexagonal conspiracy

David Forman
2024-06-10 11:33:34

For Adam's benefit, there is a good quality and cheap online printer in Southend-on-Sea called Solopress which is used by small campaign groups. Also, there is Precision Proco in Dagenham.

James Gamble
2024-06-10 12:02:09

Point is Alan why was this leaflet not printed here in the UK, surely that would be better for the British economy. Double standards.

James Gamble
2024-06-10 12:27:18

Sorry Adam not Alan

Trace
2024-06-10 12:37:09

Ha, wasn't it similar for the new British passports after brexit, another Nige creation?! Contract awarded to a company in the Netherlands I seem to remember. British jobs for British workers etc etc.

Mark Gobell
2024-06-10 13:48:14

For David Forman's benefit. Are you serious or did you write this letter as a joke when you write : "... to show solidarity with the far-right PVV party".

Mark Gobell
2024-06-10 13:54:10

@ David Forman & @ James Gamble & @ Trace : Do any of you know how Vista Print works? This is just embarrassing ...

Jim
2024-06-10 13:54:31

The two main Parties are a waste of time. More of the same - ad nauseum. If you want change vote for another Party. Any Party apart from Conservative or Labour.

Mark Gobell
2024-06-10 13:59:47

@ Trace : Could you please explain why you invoke Nigel Farage in relation to the printing of British passports?

Mark Gobell
2024-06-10 14:01:13

@ Jim : I agree. The only mystery for me, is to try and work out why folk expect anything different if they keep voting the same? Most odd ...

Trace
2024-06-10 14:45:29

Mark, I wonder what the connection is with reform and the brexit party and their use of jazzy slogans about everything being British, best for Britain and British jobs for British people. While I am fully aware he was not in charge of who is awarded the new passport contract, it was indeed reported on at the time with some amusement. Am sorry that my comment seemed to go right over your head.

Jim
2024-06-10 14:58:27

@Mark - absolutely. These Parties have consistently failed us. They are now more or less two cheeks from the same ar5e. Vote for someone else.

Jim
2024-06-10 15:16:12

@Trace - I can see why some people might try to use it as a stick with which to beat Mr Farage, but I'm afraid that neither he, nor either of the two Parties you have mentioned have anything to do with allocating Government printing contracts for British passports. So it's pretty irrelevant. I'm sure that's why Mark asked you the question. Nothing to do with anything going over his head.

Trace
2024-06-10 15:27:33

Jim, I have to wonder why you have just written to me explaining something I have already acknowledged in my previous comment?? Stick? Not intention, it was wry humour. Sorry it went over your head too.

Jim
2024-06-10 15:38:11

Trace - it's pretty clear from your original post that you are implying that Mr Farage had some sort of influence over where the contracts were allocated. Firstly you say he won the Brexit vote, then you follow it up with a statement about the Passport contract then having been subsequently awarded to a company in the Netherlands. What does that have to do with Mr Farage? It's pretty clear that you are trying to tie to the two things together for political point scoring, when they are completely unrelated.

Trace
2024-06-10 15:52:28

Jim, had any confusion come from my original post, I would've cleared it up on my second one - now I know you read that because you then spouted it at me as if you were teaching me something new?! You do however like to either see something that isn't there because I didn't say 'he won the brexit vote'. Did I? Your words, not mine thankyou. Nor did I imply Farage had any influence on who awarded the contracts. Thanks tho.

Jim
2024-06-10 17:24:13

Trace - your second post failed to get you out of the situation Mark put you in by exposing the irrelevance of your original post, the crux of which was, ‘Nige created Brexit and then the passport contract went to the Netherlands - so much for British jobs for British workers’ etc. It’s clear you tried to tie the two together in some sort of attempt at political humour with Nigel Farage being the target. You failed due to Mark pulling you up on the irrelevance of it. Now you’re continuing to argue that black is white when the original post is there for everyone to see. Don’t create posts attacking politicians with falsities or you may get challenged.

Mark Gobell
2024-06-10 18:12:01

Thank you Jim for understanding the reason for my question to Trace and for explaining it so so eloquently and patiently. Kudos to you also for doing so in the face of serial, infantile denials. Plus ca change ...

Jim
2024-06-10 18:44:57

Mark, thank you. I suppose David Forman is fortunate that Trace distracted everyone from the pathetic letter he wrote to this publication.

Gazza
2024-06-10 19:52:01

Reform have the right idea but can it work.

Trace
2024-06-10 20:44:02

Jim, the connection is in the spirit of this letter to the editor and to Farage, both times. He was the leader of the brexit party, he's now the leader of renamed reform. I have explained this. It was merely me remembering the slight irony, much like the letter to the editor was pointing out with their leaflet. It really IS that simple, am so sorry that you both don't get it. ............................. Oh, by the way, this is what I remember from social media at the time "“I actually like the French-designed Polish-printed new UK passport,” former Remain-backing MEP Seb Dance said after the launch. “Of course the previous one – which allowed Brits the right to work, study and retire freely across their own continent – was probably more useful.”" Now THAT is a dig. Cheerio.

Jim
2024-06-10 20:46:51

Gazza - they're not perfect but in my opinion a step in the right direction. It's a start, and a move away from the treacherous situation we have right now. The Conservatives have let Conservative voters down - very badly.

Gazza
2024-06-10 20:49:25

I just hope reform ban the silly Pro-Palestine protesters….

Gazza
2024-06-10 20:51:38

Jim you are so right…. Tories have failed but Labour would kill this country within 12 months! We need to start looking after the British before anyone else

Jim
2024-06-10 20:54:00

Trace - will you be voting Liberal Democrat at the GE? They're the only reasonably sized Party with a clear manifesto pledge to rejoin the EU. Anyone who dislikes Brexit should naturally vote for them. If the remain vote is so passionate they should get 50% of the vote. I fear however that Labour-voting sheep will put their passion for the European Union to one side, with rejoining the EU taking second place to beating the Torys.

Jim
2024-06-10 20:57:14

Gazza - the Conservatives have already lost. What's important now is changing the face of right wing politics in this country. Planning for the future. Sending a clear message to the Conservatives that their current policies are nowhere near what their core voters want.

Me, Harlow
2024-06-10 21:32:50

Jim, can you name a single, valid, tangible benefit to brexit?

Mark Gobell
2024-06-10 21:41:03

@ Me, Harlow : For me, the most important benefit of leaving the EU, is that we are back in control of our laws, rather than the unelected commissioners in Brussels.

Me, Harlow
2024-06-10 21:47:12

So what laws have changed Jim, in the UK to the benefit of the UK since we left the EU that we couldn't do before?

Me, Harlow
2024-06-10 21:48:04

Sorry, Mark.

Rob
2024-06-10 22:16:42

Nigel Farage is a Tory.

Reg
2024-06-10 22:18:31

You're right Rob, if he thinks he's in with a shout he will jump right back in bed with them

James Gamble
2024-06-10 22:40:26

Nothing has changed in law nor has anything changed for the better for working class people. Schools are failing, Hospitals are failing, illegal immigration has increased and jobs are not growing. What happened to the Brexit promises, £350m pledge for the NHS, cut in immigration, writing our own laws and democracy? No money, increases in immigration, no law changes and 4 un elected Prime Ministers. Before you say Boris was elected not when he was first appointed PM.

Jim
2024-06-10 23:21:12

I don't think any of that is related to Brexit. Has Brexit worked? I have my doubts that it's been allowed to work. It certainly hasn't been allowed to work in terms of reducing immigration. Businesses are still being provided with the cheap labour they need to satisfy their greed - only they've been coming from Africa or South America instead of Eastern or Southern Europe. In order to answer the question, it must first be given the chance to work. In any case, as I mentioned earlier - if anyone is passionate about rejoining the EU they should vote Lib Dem - or forever shut up about it.

Me, Harlow
2024-06-10 23:42:01

Allowed to work? Who is stopping our gov from working brexit? We are in control now. We are in control of our immigration, our labour. Brexit was quite some time ago, more than enough to start seeing the benefits that were sold to us. I am still looking forward to hearing about a real positive change that brexit has achieved for the people of the UK. Telling folk to shut up isn't really acceptable.

Pete
2024-06-11 06:40:42

Gazza, when you say we need to start looking after the British....., who do you actually define as British? And remember, would we have our freedom to be British without our overseas allies in WW2?

Watchman
2024-06-11 10:20:50

Have Mark Gough or Martin Harvey explained why their UKIP Party Leader, and now its unqualified parachutist PPC for Harlow, -- announced to the world by June 4 that UKIP would not contest key seats for Reform, but -- by June 7 announced that UKIP had put a candidate up in Clacton, where Nigel Farage is standing, with the effect of splitting the right of centre votes and spoil the best chance ever to get him into Parliament? Quite shameful and a disgrace in UK politics. I have challenged them on this in two other comments sections here and their total silence speaks volumes, so shame on them too.

Bazza
2024-06-11 13:26:11

Vote Reform get are country back. I wont my car cleaned by english people

Mark Gough
2024-06-11 16:46:49

Hello Watchman. Firstly I would suggest Lois has more qualifications to be an MP than the other 5 candidates put together. Secondly, Lois has a number of family connections in Harlow and is Essex born and bred. I'll think you'll find bused in is more what the Labour candidate did quitting his home town of Chelmsford six years ago! Thirdly, I don't imagine that the UKIP candidate would be standing in Clacton if Nigel's decision hadn't been so last minute. Cos if you look polling was being done on the two different potential Reform candidates right up to the deadline for nominations! Mark Gough - Harlow UKIP

James Gamble
2024-06-11 23:37:30

Bazza try cleaning it yourself.

James Gamble
2024-06-12 10:02:44

We have already had one Brexiteer as Prime Minister in BoJo and look where he took us. These people are one pony politicians both proven to be very Liberal with the truth, both insulting our intelligence by trying to act like the guy in the street. We really don't need another clown with no experience of running their nose let alone the country.

Undecided
2024-06-13 14:40:54

Brexit was put to the electorate and was voted in by a majority. Scottish independence the same. I didn't vote Conservative at the last election but I didn't ask for another election because of that. We supposedly live In a free society not Russia or China. Get off your ar##s and vote only then can things change.

Jim
2024-06-13 15:22:25

@Undecided - absolutely right. People spend all year moaning about this and that and yet when it comes to having a say in the ballot box they can't be bothered.

Undecided
2024-06-13 16:32:46

@Jim Likewise if politicians and councillors didn't lie their way to the ballot boxes and actually delivered or be seen to attempt what they say then maybe people would trust and support them

Woody
2024-06-14 14:43:47

Trace . I must say you sound a nasty piece of work the way you reply to people who are politely questioning you.

Woody
2024-06-14 14:48:28

Has brexit worked? It did with the roll out of vaccines, long before Eu. How many lives did it save ?thousands.

Trace
2024-06-15 15:22:21

@Woody, I take your judgement on what is polite etc with a pinch of salt going by some of your other comments directed at me. Cheers tho.

Watchman
2024-06-16 00:40:25

Hi Hannah. Check out the idiotKIP news - Lois Perry has run off as UKIP Leader! That will be about eight more votes to be split between you and Reform, then.

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